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Hope everyone has a nice holiday with family and friends.

Happy Saturnalia!




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Anyone ever see Krumpus?

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Grumpus from the league?


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Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas fuckers!

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Nice Tim. By the way Randall, you're not allowed to speak to seth and Lilly about Christmas till their 16.


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Lol. Is that your mandate, or Maria's?

Lol. Mine. They still believe, no need to deny them of that.


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Do you try to alter your handwriting when signing Santa's name?

Yes, why?


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Just curious how deep the lie goes.

You'd understand if you had children.


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Would I?

Yes. I'm surprised you don't with the way I see you act with Chloe.


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My parents didn't do that stuff. More like, "You guys need to go to bed so I can wrap 'Santa's' presents."

Oh, and I don't lie to my dog!

Well even if I don't believe, they do and I prefer they do as long as they can to preserve some type of childhood imagination as long as Maria and I are able to provide. Wouldn't you do the same for your kids?


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I don't see the need, and don't believe that it limits the imagination. Like I said, I wasn't brought up that way, and I'm fine with it.

Correct you weren't brought up that way. Seth and Lilly have been brought up that way. And you being my friend and any one else on the forum that speaks to my kids I expect reinforce or fake it for them, just as I would for any of your kids


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Easy for you to say, since I have no kids.

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Fun fact: The present tradition of gift giving and Santa, with children in mind, didn't really come about until the early 1900's.

Another fun fact: As I posted earlier there is another holiday character not regularly recognized in the US. It is Krumpus. This is more of an Austrian tradition. Krumpus is Santa's demon helper. His job is to take away the bad children so the good children can enjoy their presents. He is one bad looking dude. He also has a whip.

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Pics, and further details on your abduction are required.


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Hah! Yea lets see a picture.


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Keep in mind that Krumpus praides through the middle of town on streets lined with kids.