The first post states "around the 4th" so that is what I went with, didn't want to wait until late, cleared it thru work and my brother Gene is changing his dialysis time to make this. Since his time is severely limited, I just went with it. If Demons can make it, better, but if too long goes by, the cabins can fill up. I plan on doing some Texas wheelin with my blood bros, and I hope some Demon bros can make it. BTW, BamBam, return phone call!